All the Bnp boards round Shrewsbury are missing ! I went out looking to pull some down and someone had beat me to it ! Good on you,whoever you are !!! :D

Long live democracy eh jollyjohn.

Er....no ! Democracy has proved itself corrupt and obselete its time for real change.

And communism isn't corrupt?thank god those lads in the 14/18 and 39/45 wars thought differently or you would not be here now to spout this stuff.

Communism ? Who mentioned that ? What I,m about is more your original democracy where everyone votes on everything.Having representatives to make the decisions for us is outmoded and open to corruption and abuse,as we have seen so clearly of late. Rules yes,but no rulers,where people take responsibility for the community and area they live in and have a say in everything that affects them and the nation as a whole. By the way my Father fought fascism in the second war and I served in two conflicts for my country i am a patriot i belive the people of Britain have been let down by the classes that rule us and now its our turn to have a go at buggering it up ! :D

Dont worry John :rolleyes: the Aliens are coming :lol:

And there's me thinking ,they were already here and sitting in Parliament !

No Thats the Illuminati

The 70's tv sitcom charactor 'Wolfie Smith' comes to mind. :D

Read his website, it's very Tooting Popular Front

A great day ! Proud to be compared to Wolfie Smith....er......"Freedom for Shrewsbury!" and all that. :D

Can't you do something about all the Tory posters lining the A49? I know that they're in danger of losing Ludlow, but the number of signs they have put up really is excessive.

Blimey,there's a challenge ! Would love to but there are far too many of the buggers! I know what you mean the A49 is a really good guide to how the landowning classes vote. No surprise there then,doesn't anyone remember living in Thatcher's Britain ? We have had Thatcher in drag pretending to lead the Labour party,followed by Gordon who was doomed from the start,now they want to give us an old Etonian pretending to be middle class,....big of him...what a stretch ! All as bad as each other really,should be taking 'em all down in the name of balance!

Once again these MP's knowingly flaunt the law


Election litter is a term used by some national and subnational governments to describe the unlawful erection of political advertising on private residences or property owned by the local government. Often, election signs may only be displayed on private property with permission for a certain time within the election, and may not exceed a certain size. When placed on public property or public rights of way without permission, or if left on private property for too long, they are often in violation of littering laws, and/or laws intended to prevent flypostin

"Democracy through theft"

Interesting concept....

Not theft vandalism,its traditional,people have always vandalised and defaced political posters they disagree with.....you can see it in Pompeii ! A wall painting announcing games sponsored by someone trying to be elected Magistrate was defaced to read that the person in question was of doubtful ancestry! So I am carrying on a tradition,we British never have had much love for our politicians.

Justifying anything because it's 'traditional' is a pathetically weak argument. Some people would say slavery is traditional. Want to keep that tradition going ?

Picking up on one word and extrapolating that into an argument is a bit belligerant in itself,wouldn't you say ? Tradition can be a justification either way to keep or discard something.The point is there has always been dissent and thank God for it!
We,the british people have a very radical past,politically and I think its great we are free to express our views here,but we have to watch out as our "traditional" freedoms and rights are being chipped away.....right to jury trial....habeus corpus....right to gather and protest....these are all things we have lost recently !

Why pull BNP boards down?

I would have been more likely to have pulled down the boards relating to the parties that have destroyed this country,by lieing us into the corrupt EU.
No I do not vote BNP I vote UKIP but most of what is said about theBNP is scaremongering by the political elite who are terrified of an uprising in anti immigrant anti Europe feeling.

I reall dont think most people give a monkeys about immigrants or the Eu,and as for this country being destroyed...do you mind? I'm proud of this country and I think its probably the safest most free place to live you can get (in general) When people go on about the country being destroyed its usually harking back to some idealised view of the past,when smiling Policemen cuffed rosy cheeked boys around the ear for scrumping apples,which never existed.I remember the sixties seventies etc and things haven't changed that much! Its still the rich buggers running the show avoiding taxes,cheating and lying to retain power,screwing down the working class etc! I mean an old Etonian as PM ? Are we going backwards ?

I think you are wrong

Firstly according to just about every Poll ever taken on opinion on the EU public opinion has been totally against it.
YOUGoV I believe quoted 66% recently and an Express pol quoted 86% we had a referendum in 1975 for a common market not this dictatorship,politicians have lied us into this quite conveniently Tony Blair repelled the crime of Treason just before him ,Gordon Brown and others comitted it with the disgusting Lisburn treaty lie.
Cameron Clegg and Labour are for this union and they will not give us a vote on it,Camerons empty pledge on a referendum on further hand over of powers to the EU is a lie,the Lisburn treaty was a self omending treaty we are now slaves to the EU well and truely conned.
You may like it but I totally renounce it I am British not European and I have no aligence to it.
Immigration
So most people are not bothered? wrong
And that includes established intigrated immigrants,we have far to many far to many bad immigrants and far to many that either hate us or are from totally incompatable cultures,I do not blame the immigrants to take advantage of all the freebees I blame the politicians and ask why? you will never get the real truth from them.
I believe mass immigration is aimed at destroying the British identity and replacing it with a European ghetto.
Ask anyone looking for work what they think of mass immigration I am sure they will not agree either.

There are more jobs than people.....would you pick onions in the rain for less than minimum wage ? No? Well ask S and A Davies of Leominster how many of thier wofkers are local ? None as quite rightly we wont work for such slavery wages but EU immigrants will,happily.S and A Davies employ up to 3000 immigrant workers each year and they couldnt function without them.Who cleans all the office blocks in the city? Immigrants is who.there are plenty of jobs except our population isn't as desperate as them.Does your answer mean I wont be allowed to work in france anymore? it was OK for thousands of British builders to work in Germany in the eighties. Remember "Auf viedersien pet" ? So you want to stop all our freedom of travel across Europe as well,I quite like lots of europe and i'd like to decide for myself where I work and live,thank you!

Firstly if any employer is paying less then minimum wage they are breaking the law and should be reported.
Perhapes you should speak to some of the many people I know and have spoken to who are being prevented from working because of immigrant and migrant Labour,British people (Black,white,Brown or yellow) should have priority on all jobs they should be given preferance.
I do not advocate being hostile to European countries I simply do not want to be part of the union I am one of the majority you my friend are in the minority.
If the EU was so marvelous why did Gordon Brown deny us the promised Referendum? I can tell you why he would never have won it,look at the disgracful treatment of the people of Ireland the NO vote was a democratic vote the people had to be bullied into saying Yes totally disgracful.
The British people were given a referendum in 1975 on a common market and that is all it was,since then we have been lied and coerced into this undemocratic unwanted superstate that few want.
Why will no acountant sign of the EU acounts? because they are rotton and corrupt to the core frankly you can stuff the EU I hope it all implodes on itself witch I think it will.
I believe the politicians from all sides especially Brown,Blair,Mandleson and others are Traitors to Britain and its people and should have been tried for treason,you may believe the lies I certainly do not.

Prevented from working by immigrant labour?? How? Where? I agree with you that the politicians have betrayed the country and are a bunch of liars who need replacing. I dont know any local people who want to work for S and A Davies as the pay is soooo low ! They can pay less than minimum wage as they deduct money for accomodatin (portakabins) the locals would get the minimum wage but dont want to do the work. I wouldnt do it either,i wouldnt work for slavery wages and that is my choice.My point is that we need immigrants to do the lowest hardest jobs and if they were paid properly then British people might be interested in those jobs but as it stands immigrants are the only ones desperate enough to do them.if they all buggered off our economy would collapse overnight. We no longer have the Poles here as thier economy is doing well so now we have Albanians and Romanians who will go home as well,as soon as they can.Those british brickies in Germany had no thought of settling there,niether do most of these people.I really dont see the problem with people moving around to find work!

Your beliefs on immigration are shared by many,I believe that the main three pro European parties want you to believe just that,the fact is we should not need immigrants to do this work the real reason is that they want to create a diverse culture to break up what was Great Britain and help intigrate us into the new superstate to witch there is great oposition,the incomers will recieve work and acomodation witch to them is a fortune and they will intigrate into our society with pro EU views.
We have plenty of people in this country unemployed our own people who should take on this work are not even being offered it or made to take it why?.
I know many people both where I live in Wales and in Shrewsbury my home town who would be glad to work for minimum wage.
An example Minsterley dairys a factory built to employ local people now employs mostly migrants why? I am sure many local people would be happy to work there basically Britain is being stiched up by lying corrupt politicians forcing the EU onto us,they have much financially and career wise to gain from our membership the likes of you or I gain nothing at least to justify loosing our sovereignity and democracy over.

[I live in Wales and in Shrewsbury my home town]

So you have emigrated to Wales?

I had a lovely day at Hodnet Hall today and met the owner Algernon Heber Percy. I valliantly tried as an Anglo Saxon not to hate him. The cakes in the tearoom were a crafty tactic and definately won me over. :lol:

Been ten years in Wales and a few Shrewsbury people also up here.
I dont hate anyone not on the grounds of race anyway,I just oppose government policy on immigration and the EU.

I dunno you Celts think you own the place, us neandertals are the real "indigenous population" of this country....so Mr Griffin our leader says!!!

I dont know where you are from sunshine but I only live in wales,Shrewsbury born pal.

''rules, but no rulers''???????? OK.....so who proposes these 'rules'? Who implements them ? Who, for want of a better term, 'polices' them ? What do you do if a hundred different people want a hundred different rules ? Someone would end up deciding. That someone is then the ruler.
People often say they want to abolish current systems that they disagree with. But it's always to replace them with systems that they agree with and many others don't. So, it's back to where you started. ( I've just thought of a cool name for it, I'm gonna call it democracy ).
Here we go round the Mulberry Bush.

We have got to have rulers it is just a pity that apart from Election time the do not bother about what we think.
They should remember that they are elected to represent our views not their own self interests.

The answer is simple. If you are as right as you believe you are, ( and you my well be ), then, come the next election, put yourself forward as a candidate. If enough people agree with you, you're in.

Problem sorted.

( Or is the problem that the electorate is insufficiently wise to agree with your, or anybody else's, point of view ? Rum stuff, this democracy lark ).

I have already taken steps to do just that.